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Topic: A little story about my Profiler (REF1)
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Colinbus
23 posts
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11-04-2007 14:42
Dear all,
to all of you who did not get a reply, or a Profiler activation code to, please do send your email again with your inquiry. We received a large number of emails and inevitably lost some in the process.
Best regards
Jure
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Colinbus
23 posts
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11-04-2007 14:44
Hello everybody,
there has been an update to the ColiDrive software. Basically all the issues that users reported should be solved. Please, if you find some other bugs, do let me know so that I can fix them asap.
The new version can be obtained from the Profiler download page.
In short the bug fixes include.
V 2.2.0.19
Bug fix: Processing 'large' file (over 1 MB) caused the software to crash with index out of bounds message.
V 2.2.0.18
Update: Moved the zero position into continue window as it makes it easier to process data.
Bug fix: Program crashes in the Show detail window when in simulation mode.
Bug Fix: Import of DeskProto files failed to execute when executed from windows.
Bug Fix: Tool going into material on bit/tool swapping.
V 2.2.0.17
Bug Fix: Error starting up the programs from the menu (ColiLiner). Made updates in routine so that all possible errors would be covered.
Bug Fix: Slight update in reset machine command menu. This should handle things much better.
Bug Fix: Clicking on the Mirror Line will make a move only in the Y direction while X will always be 0.
Bug Fix: Colours in draw window are now saved when they are changed.
Bug Fix: Positioning over images gave some problems regarding the number of pixels offset that was used.
Bug fix: First positioning can use very low speeds if the holes are milled rather than drilled.
Bug fix: First move is done on 0 depth that results in scratching the material.
Well that's all folks, for now.
Any suggestions and bug reports are welcome.
Best regards,
Jure
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Colinbus
23 posts
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11-04-2007 14:52
Hello everyone, I just feel obliged to clear out the software issues that surfaced since the first Profiler was supplied. Colinbus has a lot of machines on the market and the software definitely passed its R&D phase (if you can claim that for software this phase is ever finished  ). Profiler as such is a mechancally identical copy of the CBR-40, but the application isn't. And even though with the old SW version it was possible to produce everything, we had to change a lot in the software to allow all you Profiler users to use certain functionality like PCB milling. PCB milling was a feature used only on another machines from Colinbus and it worked somewhat differently. Those machines also use a different controller. Due to the large pressure with supplies to customers and a very strict time line, some parts of the software were overlooked and the bugs showed up. Thanks are due to all users who reported the bugs. We were able to fix most of them, and I believe I can say in quite short time. So if you have any questions please do ask and give your comments because we are listening. With kindest regards Jure
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StigOE
24 posts
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11-04-2007 16:27
Hi, Jure.
Do you know if it would be possible for those that have ordered the Profiler (which includes me...) to get the URL where we can download the programs and assembly instructions so we have something to drool over while we wait for the kit to arrive? Obviously not posted in these forums, but have it sent in an email...
BR,
Stig
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Elektor Editor
587 posts
Power User
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12-04-2007 09:59
Please continue this discussion under the topic: "Software issues" which has been created for you. Original Topic covers assembly and actual use of the Profiler.
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fox99
7 posts
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22-07-2011 16:29
Dear Sir: I read with attention mails posts by sn00zerman and Mr Jure from Colimbus.
I have a very similar story about profiler machine from Colimbus. I have now the release 2.2.0.81 of Colidrive but lot of bugs you described.
I can import a Gerber with Coliliner ver 3.53.7 (basic) and create files for Colidrive an mill the PCB , that OK. BUT the problem is the drilling, I have the DRL file from ORCAD (MAURIZIOPETIT-1.DRL), I try to import this file in the Coliliner SW but it is possible to import this only as Artwork layer. I can see the image of the pads and if I do a Countour all Layers it make that, but I can't see the holes.... If I Import to Colidrive the file MaurizioPetitDrill.BFF the machine has only the milling to do.....
So my question is: Who knows how make the drill for a PCB having a DRL file from ORCAD ?
I have the Mill Hole bug described in 04.2007 by sn00zerman yet in my version of ColiDrive .... have you another version of the sw ?
Somebody has a home made sw ?
I read it is some input output on the control box we can use to detect tool length or to stop the machine ...somebody has more info about that ?
I try to work with this machine from more a year but I don't have success until now !
Thanks to your help.
FOX99
 MAURIZIOPETIT-1.DRL
MaurizioPetitDrill.BFF
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BoeingBrown
701 posts
Power User
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22-07-2011 17:32
Hi Maurizio,
Could it be that it is not a bug, but that you pressed by mistake the wrong button ?
See screenshot.
Here no problems importing it into a DRL file.
Here no problems to see the drills in Colidrive.
New file attached.
Hope this helps.
Hessel
MaurizioPetitDrill C.BFF
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fox99
7 posts
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22-07-2011 22:09
Thanks for the answer,
The problem is that I don't have this option I have only Artwork! See my screenshoot2.
The version of my sw Coliliner is Basic , but Colimbus says me that is possible to do a complete PCB working one layer after one layer (TOP, BOT, DRILL).
What is your sw release ? It the Basic version activated by Colimbus after the reception of the machine and included in the price of the machine ?
Thanks for your answer.
Maurizio
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BoeingBrown
701 posts
Power User
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22-07-2011 22:38
Hi Maurizio,
Here the professional version, but that's not relevant for your problem.
Here exactly the same version as you have, so not the problem too.
It's true for sure (!) that the Basic version you have, should have the possibility to import one DRL file.
Indeed, the Basic version is included into the price of the machine.
So only remains why it isn't possibe here. Think contact with Colinbus is needed. Could be they are on holiday now ?
I have no solution, sorry.
Nevertheless a NO STOP of your project is needed .... .
So, if you want me to convert DRL files for you, let me know. It's ony seconds.
As you saw the DRL file included into your previous mail is already converted. Alligning in Colidrive should not be to difficult.
Hessel
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fox99
7 posts
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23-07-2011 10:35
Hi Hessel,
Thanks, I already asked Colimbus about this problem, they answer me with a proposition price to buy the Pro version, I understood it wasn't possible with basic version.... somebody succeed with the basic version to manage drill file ?
The communication with Colimbus is very difficult, I contact them by phone and by e-mail but they says every time some body would contact me back, but never append...
Thanks for your proposition about converting files , I would try to drill my PCB today with your file. I have an additional question, how associate tools with every hole size, I tried but in Colidrive I can associate only one tool for all the drilled holes.....in the manual it is not very clear...
Another point is the problem of flatness of the table for the milling , I have to pass 2 times in some cases to be sure I remove all the copper, I use the tool PCB Tool 0.1mm CT0002 from Colimbus. If I put a MDF under the PCB it is worst in term of flatness ....somebody has a trick for my problem ?
Thanks Maurizio
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fox99
7 posts
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23-07-2011 18:22
Hi Hessel,
I made a test this afternoon with the BBF file for drill process you send me back, but in ColiDrive I see only tracks on the TOP Layer and the tools needed are 2mm milltool for PCB contouring abd mill 0.2mm, the machine starts to mill the pads..... no drill hole here no tools associated even if I go in the setup menu an choose Tools in order to chose the drill bits I have.
I think I made something wrong with the drilling, could you say me how to proceed with the file you send me back and with ColiDrive sw to improve the drilling process ?
Thanks a much.
Maurizio
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BoeingBrown
701 posts
Power User
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23-07-2011 19:51
Hi Maurizio,
Not quite sure if I understood your probem, but here a try.
Open de send bbf file in Colidrive by choosing filetype : Coliliner files.
After that you should see what is more or less in the attached screenshot.
In this you can see 3 drill subfiles (you made) and one contouring file (you made).
Due to differences in the database it can be, that the mills and drills seen here, are not what you want.
Never mind, simply take the diameters of the tools you had in your mind in the time of designing this layout.
Skip The last 3, and START with the first.
I tried it here and the drilling starts.
You can also import in Colidrive at the same time your other file(s) and allign them to eachother (e.g. by magnifying 1600 times).
Hope this helps.
Hessel
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fox99
7 posts
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24-07-2011 10:37
Hi,
I tried that you say but it is very strange , when I press button Import files in project, I chose Coliliner Files, I chose my BFF file corresponding the Drill file you send me , in result it is only milling job with the 0.2mm Mill tool !!! as in the screen shot below. I did that from the beginning, and I don't understand if it is a bug or not. What is your sw version of Colidrive ? Witch version of control box do you have ?
Bye Maurizio
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BoeingBrown
701 posts
Power User
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24-07-2011 10:57
Hi Maurizio,
At this moment I have a Colidrive version 3.0.0.78 (as in the screenshot). There is newer one (81).
here the "3. ....." version because I have the newer 3D controller board.
I've a friend with a Profiler 2D controller board and software. Will ask him, if he would be so kind to check this problem on his setup. I expect he will answer in this thread.
I'm afraid that I have no other possibilities at moment for helping you.
Hessel
Post edited by BoeingBrown
on 26-07-2011 11:09
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fox99
7 posts
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24-07-2011 11:48
Thanks,
You help me a lot because I know now that it is possible to do drilling process ant I did the right procedure to do that, but I think it is a sw version problem. Withe the 2D controller I don't have more recent versions of the sw.... I am very interesting if your friend could work out drilling with his machine and which sw release he has....
Thanks a lot
Maurizio
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BoeingBrown
701 posts
Power User
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24-07-2011 22:50
Maurizio,
My friend reported in the mean time.
As written, he has a 2D controller and software.
See screenshot, all 3 DRL files are there, version number in the screenshot. Since his the Profiler was not "ON" the 3 subfiles in text format cannot be seen, but in the main screen of Colidrive you recognize your 3 subfiles.
Did you try to re-install Colidrive ?
Hessel
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